You will fund abortions!

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Yes, we anticipated this but that doesn't make it any the less outrageous.  President Barack Obama has ordered that taxpayers will fund international organizations that promote abortion overseas:

"For too long," he said, "international family planning assistance has been used as a political wedge issue, the subject of a back-and-forth debate that has served only to divide us. I have no desire to continue this stale and fruitless debate."

And so executive fiat was used to end the debate and force American taxpayers to violate their conscience and participate in the international slaughter of the unborn. 

How ironic it is that Obama criticized the "politics" and yet engaged in the same with a divisive and unilateral act used by his democratic predecessors. 

Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), commented,

"One effect of Obama's order will be to divert many millions of dollars away from groups that do not promote abortion, and into the hands of those organizations that are the most aggressive in promoting abortion in developing countries.  President Obama not long ago told the American people that he would support policies to reduce abortions, but today he is effectively guaranteeing more abortions by funding groups that promote abortion as a method of population control."

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None of this money will fund abortions. It funds birth control, prenatal care and cancer screenings.

Obama is not forcing American taxpayers to pay for abortions. He's allowing agencies that perform, recommend, or refer abortions to receive federal funding for all of their programs, rather than crippling efforts to reduce both abortions and pregnancies world-wide.

Abortion proponents are self-deceiving. They don't want to believe that a little human being with arms, legs, face, heart and fingerprints isn't a person, so they create a fictional world where a baby is called a product of conception, a blob of tissue or a parasite. Considering their profound ability to deceive themselves, it isn't unusual to find that they think Obama's actions on the Mexico City policy won't fund abortions. It's like giving money to a homeless alcoholic and thinking he's going to save it for his mortgage downpayment.

Endind the Mexico City policy is an attack on black and brown children. Find countries where the children are dark skinned and you'll find countries where Obama sends money to abort them.

I think I was fairly clear that taxpayers will "fund international organizations that promote abortion overseas". Regarding the title, I see little difference between funding organizations that aggressively market abortion services (including their own) and those that performance the service....

I need to rant today fellow pro lifers:

What is Obama doing?

Aside from being totally immoral the funding of abortions and information about abortions to other countries, practically, don't we have enough economic issues in this country ourselves without "funding" their abortions? Aside from being the murder of children that it is and all.

Our country isn't broke or anything is it? Every day in the news we hear how broke the US is and how we are struggling but hey go ahead Obama and jump in to fund their abortions because he can.

Sheesh!

Well Obama is doing exactly what he said he'd do and it horrifies us? Why then is he standing in the oval office. I would never vote to put a murderer in power but thats exactly what has happened. Now He will rub our face in the decision we made. "Ya'll wanted me now you got me so live with it". If this isn't enough wait until he releases all these known terrorist from Gitmo and let them run unchecked in our streets. His muslem ties were revealed before the election too but those were also viewed as of liitle importance. Funny things don't become important until they become personal

I could not in good conscious vote for Barack Obama with his anti life views, which I have mentioned in many of my previous posts.

He is standing in the oval office because the people that did not vote for him (myself included) were outnumbered.

Since the republicans were blamed for the tanked economy, the majority switches their vote to the other party (democrats) who they think would do better.

That is how elections work.

This is only the beginning of the onslaught of policy changes to murder the unborn. There must be an outcry for the innocent who are dying. How come we send armies to defeat mass murders (genocide) in other countries, but we just read blogs and sigh when it's happening in our own country! What kind of nation we will be has always been determined by how our leader follows God. Read the history books. Look at the nation of Israel's history. If there is one thing God HATES, it's when you do anything to hurt an innocent child. Mark it down... we will pay!! Until then, don't just read blogs. Do something. Make this the most important issue in the next election. Many were deceived into believing that this was a periphreal issue. If we are killing millions of innocent children, it doesn't matter what the stimulus package plan is... it all equals JUDGEMENT. I'm not blaming Obama, I'm blaming America. We must pray for Obama and the heart of our nation (including me) to turn from our wicked ways and turn back to God. Until then... we reap what we sow.

At this point and time, prayer is the best answer for ours and other nations.

People come to the pro life blogs to talk about what is going on with the pro life movement and share ideas and such. Thus the blog can further give people more incentive, gumption what have you to stand up for the innocent unborn everywhere who as we know do not have a voice.

Also we need all the emotional support we can get and this is a good way to get it so we can all go on. Its been rough going.

Everyone can always do more.

And who knows? an individual who has always been for abortion can be convinced otherwise.

That, hey, abortion is wrong.

That is a good thing.

I agree with you Scott. I glad you Brought God and His word into play. I believe just like God used the pagan King of Babylon; Nebuchadnezzar to Bring Judgment to Israel, He can use Obama to bring Judgment on our country for turning it's back on Him. As for Reading blogs and not doing anything, I can only speak for myself when I say that I stand firm on God's word and live it as best I can. I may have used a blog a handful of times but I wanted to vent my anger and hope that someone reading this would realise what we as a nation have become. The Main cry in this election was for change and as one of the others on here pointed out people wanted regardless of the cost. In my venting I made it sound as if no one cares when the truth is that 40% of the nation agree with our views but sadly that wasn't enough to keep Obama out. God controls who's placed in leadership, so there is a definate reason for Obama bring there. It just angers me and hurts to see the country I love reject the God I serve!

Hi Linda You're right and I know how elections work. The sad thing is that many people didn't vote the issues but rather for other Reasons. Like you said the majority of the public associates the problems this country is facing with thr Republican party therefore they didn't really have a chance from the beginning. Also as much as we try to avoid it, Race was an issue. I am not racist and would be estatic over the election of our first black president if he stood upon Biblical standards. However just as wrong as it is to not vote for someone based upon their color, nationality or gender, it is equally wrong to vote for someone solely based on their color. I pray that God will change Obama's heart and create in him a president like no other.

Maybe criticising the blanket policy is the wrong way to go about this... might a better way be to wait six months or so, get hold of a list of grants (Obama seems to like openness, so you can probably do so quite easily - it'll be public record, or at worst a FOIA request), and go through them all to find out where the money is actually going? Chances are only a very small amount will be going anywhere near abortion provision - small enough that it will be practical to debate and support or oppose each one individually.

The precentage of money directed towards abortion isn't the issue for me. IF ONE DOLLAR OF TAX MONEY IS SPENT ON ABORTION THATS ONE DOLLAR TOO MUCH!!!

Rick, Scott: Yeah! Rick, I know what you mean: "It just angers me and hurts me to see the country I love reject the God I serve!" I know what you mean. I wish I could have said it so eloquently.

But I think it's far worse than that, basically for the same reasons you have both articulated so well.

Eventually, there won't BE a country for us to love if we keep killing its future by killing our own children.

It's impossible that any nation can kill its own future and survive indefinitely. This is a true idea that anyone, even the densest pro-choicer, can easily grasp.

Either we Americans destroy legalized abortion on demand in a peaceful and nonviolent way, or it will destroy us in one way or another. No other public policy issue facing our nation today is more important, or anywhere near as important.

Forget about the Muslims, the Chinese, the Russians, the North Koreans, the peculiar weather, our collapsing economy, half a million professional criminal illegal immigrants, and the five or ten other things that preoccupy us. Not one of them can sink this country.

The only thing that can sink us is abortion. Why? Because we are a nation of humans like every other human that has ever walked the face of our beautiful blue planet. We're our own worst enemy.

"It's impossible that any nation can kill its own future and survive indefinitely." It isn't simplistic at all. It's very simple. And it's true.

We have to start hammering away at this simple and true idea at every opportunity. Let the pro-choicers explain why it isn't so, or why it isn't such a bad idea.

Also please remember, my dear brothers and sisters, that someone spitting on you, figuratively or any other way, isn't really an argument. If anything, it's a sign you're well ahead or even have won.

Please allow me to add my voice to the chorus of voices calling for prayer - that our all-Loving, all-Merciful and Most High God will deliver us from ourselves. Let us "Be of good cheer, for I have have overcome the world." Let us pray for one another, and especially for those who hate us the most.

Pax,

John Heuertz, OP
Kansas City

Scott, I couldn't agree with you more. President Obama's policies on Abortion are truly evil even 1 dollar of tax payer money that goes toward ending an unborn life is 1 dollar too many. GOD loves us and knows us even before we are conceived in the womb. I am only 5 months away from being a Dad myself. A person that could get an abortion performed doesn't have warm blood running through their veins let alone a SOUL. This nation should be ashamed for some of the evil things that it supports. The only answer is to look to GOD through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and repent.

I love how everyone is so worried about taxpayer dollars funding abortion... HELLO PEOPLE, your own money funds aborotion with every single purchase you make. YOU ARE ALREADY FUNDING IT!!!!!!!!! If you need to fight for something, fight to bring back the American Family. One that has a parent home raising these babies you say should be born and have a home. I understand the need to live in a pretend world, but we have a very real world that is failing around us and fixing abortion issues, not really a top priority. It is between a women and her doctor and God. The public doesn't belong in the mix... Get a new hobby already.

"I understand the need to live in a pretend world, but we have a very real world that is failing around us and fixing abortion issues, not really a top priority."

The pretend world is one in which making it better is achieved by slaughtering innocent helpless human beings.

And Bush "ordered" that we FUND the killing of hundreds of thousands of people in Irak and Afghanistan. In fact upwards of 600 billion. Doubtful we are spending that on abortion.
One thing to remember when one preaches religion as a basis for being anti-abortion: It is a sin to lie and I see lies up here: No, Obama isn't turning terriorists out of "Gitmo" to run in our streets. No, God does not control who is placed in leadership--if so, I'm not happy with his Bush choice. No, Obama doesn't have "Muslim ties" anymore than if I went to a public school with a mass murderer, I'd have a tie to him! If one would never "put a murderer in Power", did you vote for Bush.
Quit relying on the idea of a God controlling our country (or be ready to agree to Iran's government), and quit thinking that people who don't believe in any God want abortion.
Many people who don't believe in God don't want to see abortion take place. The problem is that whether it is legal or not, doesn't stop it!
You will not stop abortion with laws. People have to be aware of how drastic it is and how destructive it is not only to the baby, but to the mother and father as well.
You will have more abortions in the economic mess left to us by Bush's group. As people have no jobs (and they are going out by the thousands daily) and as they lose their homes, they won't carry through a pregnancy. So, the economy is important.
People have to respect life to bring it forth. We don't show respect for life when we bomb and kill and torture. We have children going to bed hungry at night in this country. We have kids home alone with both parents working. We have kids on our streets begging. We don't have millions of families waiting to adopt either.
The question I have is this: if there were no God, no hereafter to look to, would we not take better care of what we do have--the here and now? Would we not consider how precious life is if we knew that's all there is? I think so. Maybe religion works against man's better judgment to preserve himself by not killing off his children before birth.
We need to look for solutions, not scapegoats. We need to look for reasons for life, not preach this religion or that one. If one loaf of bread is all you have, you will savor it. We also know that if you put too many loaves in the kitchen, they will spoil!

If GWB is so bad, "killing of hundreds of thousands of people in Irak (sic) and Afghanistan," what does that say about FDR and Truman, who purposely targeted civilians? And what does it say about B.O., who is determined to escalate the war in Afghanistan?

Many (most?) of of Obama's family are Muslims, including his deadbeat dad. He also accidentally referred to his "Muslim faith." There is no way he'd accidentally say, "My Jewish faith."

Banning abortion dramatically protects innocent children from slaughter. Before Death Roe, about 500,000 little unborn humans were murdered annually in the USA. When hateful people made killing them a make-believe Constitutional right, it rocketed to over 1,500,000 in just a couple of years. Abortion laws make a difference.

Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger referred to poor people as "weeds," and "imbeciles." You follow her lead well by comparing children to rotting bread. You should have said sliced bread, which is how they end up.

Well Ruth what an elegent speak too bad you are so far misinformed. Maybe if you spent aliitle time reading the bible and asking God the author to help you understand it you would know that He is in complete control over who's placed in leadership. As for your disapproval of his choice In George Bush I'm glad that our creator doesn't need your approval before making His choices. I don't like war or killing any more that most people, but sometimes it has to happen. Remember we didn't start this war. I quess you think that we should have gathered in circles and carried sighs stating "can't we all just get along" after 9/11 then take steps to protect ourselves from further attacks. And might I remind you that this war has brought deaths on all sides. We have brave men and women who are sacreficing themselves and the battle front so that you acn freely babble. By the way What god is it that you're reffering to, because it obviously not the true God of the Bible! Why is it that God is always at fault when men do stupid things. I preach the Gospel because there is a way to over come this. I do agree with you on one thing however. People do try to hide behide religon and use it as an excuse, however what I'm talking about isn't religon but rather relationship with Jesus. There is a big difference

Good heavens, Christ must have his eyes rolled back in disbelief again as he reads things like "He" puts our people in power and the big lie that "we didn't start the war" (Irak) or that it had something to do with 911, or that our soldiers are protecting my free speech by killing Irak citizens.
How do we educate people about not having abortions when some of you get everything wrong? We have to have an informed public to prevent abortions.
We can't be sure of the abortion figures before 1973, but we can read them now at about 1.2 million. We also know the population has greatly increased since 1973, so we would have to compute the actual increase in abortions (if there is any), with that in mind.
As to GWB vs. FDR and Truman. Bush started these 2 wars we're in, but WW2 was dumped on us (remember the Japanese were hitting us here at home). There was overkill, some done to protect our soldiers from slaughter if we had to invade Japan. Other things like France and Dresden were not necessary, but who made the specific decisions, I don't know.
I don't buy the "Muslim" idea and suggest if concerned, you quote the whole thing. Barack's dad was there for the insemination, and only came back once when Obama was 10 years old. So, this child wasn't responsible for his dad's other liaisons and children (that you refer to as his "relatives".)
This blog should not disintegrate into a bunch of lies about people you don't know, it should be about how to prevent abortion. I never equated "rotting bread" with children.
As to your "God" controlling everything, including this election: I will assume your God wants abortions if you say that's what Obama wants. If "He" put Obama in and you say killing sometimes has to take place, I don't much like your idea of God. That would be sadistic. What God or other person would want to hurt anyone?
When you allude to God in this fashion, it detracts from His goodness and detracts from trying to save unborn children. Just which side are you on anyway?
I'm voting for the kids, you can vote for a killing God if you want, but you'll be a lone voter.

B.O. said, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my, eh, Muslim faith, and you're absolutely right that that has not come..." Then he was corrected by former Clinton White House press secretary George Stephanopolous.

I don't think he's a Muslim, but he might have been at one time. I don't think he's a Christian either. He's simply a slimy political opportunist. He simply joined a church that was influential in the community where he intended to run for office. He became a student of the pastor and used the pastor as inspiration to one of his books. At one point in the campaign he spoke passionately about his devotion to Rev. Wright, saying that he could not disown him. A short while later he quit the church and wouldn't even talk to the guy.

You write about innocent people being killed, but no one is more innocent than an unborn child. And the "hundreds of thousands" you're concerned about in Iraq is small stuff for abortion.

The trouble with BO and other sick people like him is that there isn't anything so vicious, so nasty, so horrible that could be done to an unborn child that they would want to ban it. And there is no number so large that they would say we've had enough abortions. When it reached 10 million, they wanted more. When it reached 25 million they wanted more. When it reached 50 million they wanted more. When it reaches 100 million, they'll want more.

I don't think anyone likes abortion and the ones that enter into it lightly have no concern for life anyway. I was raped as a teenager, luckily for me I didn't have to make that choice. I am confident I wouldn't have had an abortion, but I can't say 100%. The point is, I would have had a CHOICE. I don't think abortion is right, but if someone is a victim of a horrible crime or incest I believe they should have a choice. Its funny, most pro-life people tell me to listen to someone who has had an abortion. They will tell you it is the biggest mistake the have made or the hardest thing they have ever done... All I can say is... IT WAS THEIR CHOICE. I know some people who have had abortions and they are sad about what could have been, but understand that was the choice they needed to make at the time. Pro-Life people try to make is sound so easy... just put the baby up for adoption... thats great, if you have someone willing to adopt the baby. Have you heard the number of children in foster homes and the ones still waiting to find a foster home? Outlawing abortion isn't going to stop them from happening. People are just going to go back to the coat hanger in the alley method. I do think things happen according to God's Plan. I think it was in God's Plan for GWB to be elected and I think it was His Plan for President Obama to be elected. I think God also knows that we put too much into what the laws say about abortion and not enough into what can we do in the home to stop someone from having to make that decision in the first place. I think God is screaming at us to stop all this pro-life/pro-choice crap and to start bringing back real family values. Lets make it so a single mom doesn't have to work three jobs to support her children, so she can spend more time teaching her children to love and respect themselves. Lets make it so that our public schools can give our children a better education. One where they don't have to be afraid of being beaten to a pulp or shot because someone's child has decided to bring a gun to school. I think he wants us to be more involved in our children's life and less involved in who has the better car and more money. I think abortion is the evil people choose to fight because they don't want to look at what is really wrong in our society. If they did look, they would have to see their own sins are worse then those they are trying to stop. Greed, Envy, Sloth, Lust, Wrath, Gluttony, Pride. It is hard to walk a mile in someone's shoes, when you aren't willing to try their shoes on.

Lots of people like abortion. Here are some examples.

- Planned Parenthood has repeatedly made Christmas cards to celebrate abortion. Choice on Earth is the phrase they use.

- Planned Parenthood got caught cheerfully accepting offers of money to abort black children. They were helping racists kill off blacks.

- At one time, maybe still, you could by a shirt announcing "I had an abortion."

- Abortion clinics were recently caught telling young rape victims to hide the age of the man who had sex with them. They were helping rapists.

- When the partial birth abortion debate started years ago, liberals put out the lie that the mother's anesthesia killed the baby. It's quite possible that women who heard this lie delayed their own surgery so they wouldn't kill their baby. They love abortion and are willing to kill women to protect it.

- Abortion is the glue that holds the Democrat party together. It is the party of baby killing, much like they were the party of segregation and slavery. Among the party leaders you will find people who voted for the Iraq war and some who voted against it. You will find those who support tax cuts and those who vote against them. You will find free trade advocates and you will find protectionists. You will find pro-abortionists, but you will NOT find pro-lifers.

- Democrats have repeatedly tried to shut down pregnancy counceling centers, places where women with financial, medical and social problems because of their pregnancy can go for help.

- BO argued that the principle behind the Born Alive Infant Protection act is unconstitutional. He loves abortion so much, that he demands a dead baby even when she was born alive.

I've read through some of the comments on these different subjects, and I believe "Lou" is the one writing here (LJ) as his hate is unmistakable.
The comment above me here is good as to what America needs to do, but the hate comments by "LJ" don't make sense and are not true.
All Democrats and All Republicans don't think in unison. To hate Obama so much for nothing is way out I fear. It is also destructive to the idea of saving children.
LJ doesn't understand speech, or he would have gotten what Obama said about McCain's rhetoric about "his Muslim". But, I can't waste my time on educating LJ. He should have known why Obama finally broke with his pastor after saying otherwise--it was what his pastor did in between. If you don't remember, look it up.
If God controlled everything, why do we do anything? Why vote? Why go to school? No, I don't believe any God controls our actions. Free will still operates. If one believes God controls it all, then one has to believe He wants abortions, and I don't go there.
This is a blog about whether our tax dollars are supporting abortion. Yes, they do. They also support wars, torture, millions to CEOs (through the bailout of businesses who then paid millions to their people). It also supports the disabled, feeding programs for kids in schools, health care for the elderly, etc.
But this blog I assume, is here to get helpful feedback on reducing abortions. One writer is correct above about changing our emphasis from money to family. But, how to do that is the question. Remember, survival is the primal instinct. For some women their survival means abortion so we have to find out why and solve that problem. For others working is necessary and their kids pay the price, so we need a better economy so mom can stay home.
Years ago, extended family members lived in the home and the kids had a lot of help with problems. Now, grandma is in a retirement facility or nursing home or 3,000 miles from the family. Aunt Jane is somewhere else. These were important people in kid's lives, but they don't exist now. We can't turn the clock back.
We have to look at why people have abortions and find solutions to the problems that send women in that direction to prevent those pregnancies they don't want. There aren't enough willing parents to adopt all the now aborted kids.
We can march, carry signs, complain at the scapegoats we make up, elected or otherwise, but that won't do it. Why are women having abortions? How do we convince them, one by one, not to.
Please LJ don't start a diatribe against Obama using me as your vehicle as I won't respond because the issue here is abortion and saving babies. It isn't your venting against politicians or democrats. Come up with some workable solutions and help a little.

well once agian you've shown how liitle you know about the charactor of God, but getting into a theological debat with someone who's lost is a waste of time. So Just sticking with the issue of abortion. first as to the young lady that was raped, I can't imagine what she must have went through and I can understand her unwillingness to have a child from such a horrible act of hate however is it the childs fault? next Ruth You have critised LJ for his dislike of Obama. He has that right just like the other 40+% of americans that didnt vote for him. You said he should make such pointed remarks about someone he doesn't know, so obviously you and Obama are good friends as you know him so well. I will say that now that He is in office I personally will honor his position, but I too saw a lot more unanswered questions about his background and beliefs than not. But in his defense there maybe only a handful of politicans out there that can truely be trusted. I also agree with you when you commented about how much tax dollars have been spent on bailing out Ceo's and faltering companies. Thats another issue altogether. You seemed to be so worried about this abortion issue and I am glad you are , but I have one question. If you're that concerned why would you have supported someone that was very open about their intentions when it comes to abortion?

Ah, so the "the issue here is abortion and saving babies." Then why empower politicians who make it easy to slaughter them? People who vote for pro-abortionists like Obama are part of the killing.

So while they insist that they want to "save babies," they empower individuals who:
- Believe in live baby dismemberment.
- Believe in live baby disembowelment.
- Believe in crushing the skulls of live babies.
- Believe it should be legal to stab a baby in the skull and suck her brains out, possibly while still alive.
- Believe in paying the bills of women who have abortions.
- Believe in subsidising businesses that kill babies.
- Believe in sending money to foreign lands to kill babies.
- Are comfortable with disproportionately killing poor babies. So much for helping the poor.
- Are comfortable with disproportionately killing brown and black babies. The do it so well, you'd think the KKK was behind it.

What really irritates people is my use of plain spoken language. While they want to hide behind vague terms like pregnancy termination, fetal tissue and choice, I prefer to use clearly understood language. They hate it.

People like BO are not merely for choice, because when you examine what the choice is, you realize that it is brutality and viciousness that they are fond of.

I think the point is that we need to focus on is lowering the number of unwanted pregnancies, not abortion laws. I am a pro-choice person, but I am not pro-abortion. I think abortion is wrong on so many levels, but I can't tell someone else what they can or can't do with their body/lives. God gave me free will and he gave it to every other person in the world. That being said... as a pro-choice person, I have issues with FOCA too. Not for the reasons you all do, but for my own reasons. I already pay for abortions. I shop at stores that support organizations that offers them, etc. Can't get around it... Before you complain about tax payer dollars, look at where you shop, what hotels you stay in, what credit card you use and then see if you can really complain about what the government is doing with your tax payer dollars.

End abortion for selfish reasons.

Abortion cannot end altogether because it is believed that women have the "choice" with their own bodies, free will to do as one pleases.

If abortion cannot end because this option needs to be kept open for individuals as needed or those who desire it, at least end abortion for selfish reasons.

Let me explain:

If you do believe in the existance of God then you know we pay for the evil of others and have been since the beginning of time.

Abortion is the bloodshed of others, which even with Karma, will come back to each of us.

Who wants that?

All that blood on our hands? Do it because you do not want to suffer the consequences of having blood on your hands. Escape the consequences.

End this now because we will all surely pay.

Possibly, people may come to the realization and end abortion for the right reasons--the sake of the unborn child that deserves a chance to live.

Pro-choice is the same as pro-abortion. Try it with other crimes and you'll see why.

I am a pro-choice person. I wouldn't personally shoot my wife, but it's not my business to tell someone else what to do.

I am a pro-choice person. I wouldn't personally drown my child, but I'm not going to impose my values on others.

I am a pro-choice person. I wouldn't personally rape a woman, but I think we should focus on the underlying reasons for sexual crimes and not the act itself.

When put in it's proper light, you soon realize that pro-choice people are the best friends an abortionist every had.

Please, if you are going to "answer" me, at least quote it accurately.
Why did I support Obama, Rick? Simple, honesty, a plan for health care, for turning around the Bush Mess economically, for ending an unjust war, etc. There are more issues in the world than abortion, as important as it is. If the economy goes to the 30's, what of kids then? Yesterday 45,000 more lost their jobs and today Boeing laid off thousands. People are landing in shelters with their kids--no homes, no jobs, no food.
Is that what you wanted to see by electing McCain who was just like Bush and just as illiterate on the economy (by his own admission). How many people can be out of work before the country as a whole goes down? What about abortion then? Does that answer your question?
If as you say "God is in complete control", why are you worried about abortion? You also asked "why is it that God is always at fault when men do stupid things." This makes no sense. Either He is in COMPLETE control (and man can't do stupid things), or He is not in control and man has free will and can be as stupid as he wants. You also said I should study your Bible (there are 2). I've read many things in the Bible I wouldn't do: stone someone, comes to mind, but it also talks of man's free will.
If a good god were in complete control we wouldn't have wars or abortion, would we? You also said "men and women sacrificing themselves "and" the battle front so that you "acn" freely babble." If God is in control, why are they fighting? No, not for freedom of speech (I'd guess your writing is "free babble as well), but for oil, Haliburton and other's profits, Bush's lies, etc.
As to Lou (lj) and his right not to like Obama. He has that right, but not to lie about someone he doesn't know. Your caustic and untrue comment was inappropriate. As I said, quote me accurately.
As to Lou (LJ) and "they wanted more". I think you want more as all you do is get graphic and not helpful. You said, that before it was legal some 500,000 abortions took place. That would be about 18 million by now. So why blame Obama? That many died without it being legal until you say "hateful people" made it legal. That would be the Supreme Court. If some 18 million would have died, why not concentrate on that instead of the law because if the law goes, 500,000 plus a year will be aborted anyway.
God doesn't control our elections, nor even my safety crossing the street. If I close my eyes and walk in front of a truck, that's my choice and I'll have my stupidity rewarded by getting flattened. If someone walks into an abortion clinic, it is their choice, not God's. So, I hope Rick quits blaming this God for abortions--He isn't liable.

You don't understand abortion history, Ruth. I didn't talk at all about illegal abortions. My comments were about legal abortions. There were plenty of them (500,000) before Death Roe when some sick men found a make-believe right to slaughter little human beings.

I do not need to tell lies about Obama. The truth about him is awful enough. His tax records are testimony for how little he cares for needy people. And his brother lives in a shack made of garbage.

Your alledged concern for others must be measured by your tolerance of laws which permit large scale human slaughter and your preference for politicians who make it easy.

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Just to keep the record straight: LJ (Lou), you said: "before Death Roe, about 500,000 little unborn humans were murdered annually in the USA." Now, that was when abortions were not legal. Later you denied saying that. Why? You also talk about Obama's tax records and a brother living in a house made of garbage. First, what I give away does not always appear on a tax record, and I'd guess I'm not unique. His tax records prove nothing. Since he has half brothers and sisters that he didn't know growing up, what are you talking about? Name, age, relationship, location please!
You say Obama is a slimy politician and joined a church that "was influential in the community" where he was going to run for office. Says who?
What I said above I still believe: That this blog "should not disintegrate into a bunch of lies about people you don't know."
So, lets assume some things everyone agrees on: Killing is killing, born or unborn. Abortion is cruel to the baby. Of course, having a child is sometimes deadly to a woman as well. Killing in war is cruel as well. If we assume these things, then there is no reason to go over and over and over the graphic details of how the unborn die, is there? No reason to go over and over and over about how or where any of our relatives live, is there? No reason to go over and over the horrible ways our kids die (or kill) in a war.
Now, we have problems with people having abortions. Who will adopt children in a bad economy? How many children can be adopted out if all mothers who don't want their kids carry to term, and then put them up for adoption? Who will pay for the care of those not adopted? How do you convince would be mothers to carry to term even for adopting the babies out?
Are you, Lou (LJ) willing to adopt 3 or 4 babies? Are you willing to pay for the care of those not adopted? Are you willing to go where these babies are kept to show them the love and care they need every day?
These are the problems that need discussion here. If every life is important, don't trivialize the deaths of those in the military by saying it is a small number in comparison to abortion. It isn't small to their loved ones.
So let's discuss the solutions for these problems and eliminate the bashing of Democrats or Obama. By the way many Democrats are anti-abortion! And, many Republicans are Pro Choice!

Ruth, You should be embarrassed, writing so much about abortion and knowing so little.

Before the nasty Death Roe desision by the Supreme Court abortion was legal in many, many states. Each state, using the usual democratic process and legislative representation, decided for itself what their abortion laws should be. Some abortion-happy states like NY had laws that were very hostile to unborn children.

What the sicko court made up was that killing your unborn baby became a constitutional right, like free speech, gun ownership and freedom of worship. Unlike abortion, those things are actually written about in the Constitution.

Ignorance is the abortionist's friend. They don't want their methods known. They don't want fetal development known. They don't want abortion history known so they can scare people who want abortion restrictions, but not an outright ban, into thinking overturning Roe would ban all abortions.


LJ
you are SICK..but that will not bother you since you are too far gone to know..nobody with an ounze of intelligence would be converted to prolife with your fear tactics. are your tactics approved by your prolife leaders?

It's Iraq with a Q actually. And yes, war is wrong, and I'm completely against it. But that doesn't change the fact that abortion is just as bad. More children have died because of abortion than all American wars combined (look it up). No one here is glorifying Bush. But the fact that Obama is funding abortions in other countries when ours can barely fund itself, makes me highly doubt his capability. I don't hate him, I don't think he's a terrorist, but I don't really think he'll do much for this country.

Also, this blog is about abortion. The posts are about abortion. So it would seem logical that your replies would be in that context, instead of listing all the other problems in the world.

L.V.F.
Why do you attack Obama so early ? the funding for foreign countries is for controlling abortions in these countries and maybe stop abortions by proper education and contraceptives usage. You prolifeers always take a negative stance on anything that your cult has instilled in your uninform brains. Be more positive and try to understand the real causes of abortion. Are you brainwashed or so predujiced to understand the real issues?
Be smart and do your homework before you post comments which only show your real intelligence level.

LVF, you seem not to read before you hit the computer. I didn't go into "all the other problems in the world". In fact, if you would read what I've written, you'd find I've asked many questions about abortions and what we will do with all the un-adopted babies.
So, where are your answers? Don't have any? Can't understand the questions? I've brought the conversations here back to abortions and away from the rest of it over and over. I'd suggest you go back and read before you comment.
I'd really like someone to answer those questions about why women have abortions and what sends them to an abortion clinic, and who is going to care for babies carried to term.
As to more abortions than killing in all our wars combined as you say. How many unborn babies were killed in Japan, Russia, Germany, France, etc. during WW2, by the war itself? By starvation? By our and their bombs?
If 10 abortions take place, does that make one soldier, someone's son or daughter or father or mother, who dies less important than an aborted baby? You seem to think so. Why is that? You only like unborn babies, not the already here people? Too bad.
Please get your facts (you're wrong here), and you're wrong on what I've written.
What I don't understand about some of you who write is that you just keep trying to attack everyone unjustly, but you never come up with any real solutions to stop abortions. Why? Don't you want to work on a solution to stop them? If not, that means you are PRO abortion or just don't have anyone to gripe at!
To LJ, there were some places where abortion was somewhat available pre-73, but there were many states where you really couldn't get one. So, don't assume I don't know what I'm talking about. If you really thought abortions were readily available pre-73, you wouldn't be complaining so much about Roe/Wade would you?

This is rediculous! So many people are out of work and barely making it by due to the economy, and he is sending millions of dollars overseas to help with the abortion of babies! These babies did nothing wrong to anybody except want a chance at life and he is taking it away from them. How can someone be so cruel to someone so small? Pray for the conversion of Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ever thought of engaging others in discussion instead of simply saying that whatever is God's will will come to pass? You assume that Democrats and everyone who voted for Obama supports abortion, but you're wrong. If you stopped to talk to anyone instead of accusing them or judging them you might discover common ground and actually get something done to reduce abortions. Just sayin', talking instead of ranting can accomplish something real and measurable.

Judging by ruth's comments I'd say I'm not the only one who thinks that way. Try dialogue and love and you might be surprised.




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