As you read through the list of Barack Obama's Cabinet and agency head picks, recall that Planned Parenthood, NARAL and EMILY's List promised to spend $30 million combined to defeat John McCain.It's payback time, and the pro-abort chickens are coming home to roost.
Wait - bad cliché choice. Liberal feminist chicks make their living by anti-roosting.
The pro-abort chickens are coming home to loot. That's better.
There's Ellen Moran, who will be leaving her job as executive director of EMILY's List to serve as Obama's communications director.
And there's NARAL's former legal director, Dawn Johnsen, who Obama nabbed for his Department of Justice review team.
On Monday, Obama named....
Continue reading my column, "Abortion industry picks Obama's staff," on WorldNetDaily.com.
This is NOT rocket science:
Since the Constitution’s Article II requires our President to be a “natural born citizen” (not merely “citizen” as allowed for those living when the Constitution was enacted) meaning both parents were US “citizens” when the child was born (parents not necessarily “natural born” citizens), there’s NO WAY Obama can be President — regardless of being born in Kenya OR Hawaii. Obama’s dad was NOT an American citizen. He was a citizen of the UK (ruling Kenya at the time). Case closed.
Open it again. Born in the us. Hawaii became a state before Obama was born...59....sorry., well, no, not sorry at all.
Just cannot understand all the rhetoric over Obama when it was Republican appointees on the Supreme Court (5 of them) who voted in R v W. But of course, abortion isn't the solution or the problem. Nor who is serving in government. Our conscience and our own actions are the problems. You think all those girls having abortions are someone else's kids? What happened to "it takes a village to raise a child".
I've never seen so many obsessed with the blame game.
If Roe v Wade is overturned, who you gonna blame for abortions then? God? Well, He does do the most I guess.
Tragically, Obama's extreme pro-abortion cabinet picks reflects his radical support of child killing in the womb and impugns the activity of so-called pro-life groups that took it upon themselves to endorse the most pro-abortion presidential candidate in American history.
Your radical anti-abortion views are just as "radical" as you claim Obama's to be. Extremes in any scenario are not good for anyone.
it says “natural born citizen”, not "2nd generation natural born US citizen", nice try though. Reading comprehension is a skill that many people lack, so don't feel too embarassed. If only people with parents that were BORN in the US could be president then your first president was clearly unconstitutional in more ways than we thought!
Here is what BO believes in:
- The right to shred a little human to pieces.
- The right to dismember a little human.
- The right to decapitate a little human.
- The right to stab a baby in the head and suck her brains out.
- The right to let an abortion survivor die of neglect, creating the right to a dead baby.
While it is true that all but the last are cherished values among most liberals, the last is probably not far off.
BO is a sick man, wanting to talk peace with killers and wanting it legal to cut the peaceful to pieces.
here you go again Lou....Mr Obama or liberals don't believe what you stated in your DEC 4 tread. Why are you spreading such lies. Are you atempting to put fear in the blog readers by your by your description of abortion.YOu sound like a redneck who needs to offend good people and destroy anybody tht gets in your way. You see that the issue of abortion is not that a fetus is destroyed which is is murder to pro-lifers and most liberals and conservatives it's the fundamental right of every human being to be able to choose his own destiny. Unless brain dead, most people want to be able to make their own decision.Only when people are being brainwashed by a faulty ideology that freedom of choice is removed. Are you brainwashed LOU?
Lou, Is that short for Louise? Unless you have a vagina and a uterus you should probably keep your mouth shut. Nobody or thing has a right to another living being's body. You are essentially talking about taking that right away from women. You cannot force a woman to want to take care of a seperate entity living inside her, you just can't. I am pro-choice, but
- The right to shred a little human to pieces.
- The right to dismember a little human.
- The right to decapitate a little human.
- The right to stab a baby in the head and suck her brains out.
are NOT things I believe in. I am a Catholic and I fully respect and understand people choosing to not have abortions due to religious views. We are not all of the same religion. Not to mention that when the Bible was written by these various people, there was no medical science to determine when babies BECAME babies. For all they knew they were just that way from the start. We know better now. I believe that late term abortions are immoral...but prior to that "little babies" (so articulate by the way) don't have heads to decapitate or stab and the whole thing about sucking babies brains out is just weird, you need to get off the couch and cool it with the cheetos and Alien Vs. predator movies. Maybe consider educating yourself?
What is your definition of killer Lou? A person who ends a life in general? A person who needlessly ends a life? A person who knowingly allows people to perish when he or she could do something about it?
If any above suit your definition of "killer" than you, dear Lou, better include American soldiers in your litany.
Here we go again... ripping a child apart in the womb (or, in Obama's case, shortly after birth) is not killing because members of the military kill others? Sorry, your argument is fallacious.
Here go Timmy and Louise again...should make an act of it. I don't know what you two are on, but something. I think you are both pro choice folks since you're doing more damage than good to the anti-abortion folks. Are you the chicken guys who freak and faint watching wives deliver? I think I got something crawling under the woodpile that looks like you.
Now to the real world and real people: Why all the anti-Obama rhetoric? I can only assume racism because abortions were kept legal under Bush and some 10 million happened.
Why do YOU consider abortion murder, but not killing in an illegal war, or selling alcohol to drivers who cause some 20,000 deaths a year. I hear no screams from you over imported toys that kill and injure kids. I heard nothing from you over the melanin in the milk and the sick and dead babies in China. Only once or twice the faintest murmer came through about the deaths in the Congo.
If you don't like abortion, don't have one, Obama won't force you to have one. You have free choice, but I think you rather like living in a repressed society. Like Bush when he said it would be easier if this was a dictatorship, as long as he was the dictator.
Human development: During the first trimester, the little one has a nose, eyes, mouth and ears. She has a face. She sucks her thumb, which has a unique thumbprint. She has a beating heart. She kicks and swims.
Abortion methods:
- Shred the little ones by using a vacuum tube. Their bodies are so fragile that they are simply pulled apart.
- Use a loop shaped knife, a curette, to cut them in little pieces.
- Use a saline solution to poison the little one. Her skin is burned off, but it is the ingestion of saline that ultimately kills her.
- Use a clamping device to pull the child apart. Typically a shoulder or hip is grasped and twisted off. Her body is easily ripped apart, but her head may present problems because the tissue is not so soft. Sometimes it is floating in her mommy's womb and the abortionist has to fish for it.
- Deliver the baby feet first up to her neck. Then stab her in the head to create an opening so that her brains may be sucked out.
Nebraska abortionist Leroy Carhart testified that after a little one has been stabbed in the skull she is likely still alive. He likened it to a gun shot would that does not immediately kill the victim. He then testified that after her brains have been sucked out that her heart may continue to beat.
A good abortionist will wade through the remains and make sure he has all the pieces. Leaving an arm, leg, kidney or heart behind in mommy's womb is bad for business.
The right to do such nasty things is belief among liberals.
Jane Roe from Roe vs. Wade is a pro-life supporter since 1995. Check the data. If you think a fetus at 1 month don't look like a human being - well check the medical facts yourself. The fetus is a living being who responds to stimulation including needles puncturing the womb. The fetus in the womb could have easily been you, me and anyone else you know and love. The psychological trauma a woman endures through abortion is substantial and statistically lowers her mortality rate. Check GAP- pro life info. Cross reference the fetal development as many times over as you like and I can assure many of you here who are pro-choice - read and learn and choose life. The alternative - pro-abortion is pro-death to the human race. Anyone claiming to be a feminist must believe in the value of women's physical, psychological and spiritual being. If you are pro-women then be pro-child as well. Female fetuses are heavily aborted in many countries such as China and India. Check the facts and know the value of who you are as a living human being and I bet you you'll be pro-life too!
To those who wonder why we pro-life would recommend adoption who is pregnant because of rape. Here is one reason: A woman who is rape never forgets that she was raped. A woman who is encouraged to have an abortion and consented will remember for the rest of her life she had an abortion. This means that she is not only raped but also killed her own flesh and blood. She will remain a victim not only of rape but also deceit of societal support of killing her own child. The spirit of the child, the sex of the child and the age the child could have been will always linger in her mind for the rest of her life. This is the greatest tyranny in todays society. The woman undergoes physical pain and psychological suffering after the abortion while the man who rape her is rarely charged of the case nor held responsible because the woman stays silent through the abortion. Ask yourself what did the child/fetus do to deserve such treatment at the most vulnerable moment in his/her development. Other than the fact that the fetus is unable to defend him/herself. Do we kill the parents of criminals? Of course not! But we don't mind killing the child of woman who is raped! This makes any sense?
Another question to ask yourself. Is it right to kill a child of a rapist? If your answer is no! Then why is it perfectly okay to kill the fetus? Is the fetus at fault for his/her existance? Is the rapist father punished by the abortion? The answer is no! Is the rapist father hurt by the abortion? Physically - No! Psychologically - No! He does not care!
Is the woman physically and psychologically affected by abortion? Yes! Women who has undergone abortion never forgets the abortion! If she carried the child to term then at least her conscience is clear! Because killing a child is not justification for a rape case. And, being raped and becoming a killer to your own child/fetus is a big deal! Biologically speaking the child is 50% the mother's genetic make-up. The child is also clear of conscience from the father's crime. This is why we do not kill nor imprison family of criminals on the basis of heredity! Again, check the legal facts!
JazzI, lou,louise,Tim, Timorty et al
You guys still don't want to face the real issue concerning abortion.You keep talking about killing the fetus is not the same as killing living humans in wars , starvation etc.RvW was not about killing and you guys know it if you are intelligent enought to read and understand the content of the decision handed down by the supreme court.Us liberals are not as insensitive to the issue of abortion as mentioned in your comments and as mention by Lou. You all missed the boat on the real issue of abortion as it relates to choice. Freedom of choice is not a license to kill as you guys seem to be hung up on. Freedom of choice is owning your own destiny and not be influenced by demigods like you guys. You see you do not have the right to tell others what to think, to do, to believe and how to live their life as long as we are citizen of the USA .Read the constitution and if you can't read or understand it go to school or ask somebody that knows how to read and understand it.
This idea of thinking that Mr. Obama will cause abortion to exist is foolish and you guys are only using that argument to foster dissent and put fear(a common republican tactic) to gain support for your misguided ideology of prolife. Do something constructive for a change. Educate yourself and others on abortion preventions and on sex education of our children. Don't leave it up to school teachers to do the job. Teach about contraception and the consequences of having unprotected sex.Be a real pro-lifer and quit passing judgements on others and respect the right for people to have a choice.
The only choice we all don't have is telling people what to do or to think at least here in the USA.
So i hope you guys will shape up, get educated, read and get your facts right and tackle the real issues concerning abortion..In other words be smart and think before you write...remember you also were a choice to your mom..she could have aborted you..was it a good choice??
S o my recommendation for you guys is to be more active is saving the living.. if you are really prolifers support the programs for helping the poor,the starving children in the world, the AID epidemic ,, the killing and raping of innocent girls in the Congo stopping all wars and many other problems in the world and here in the USA.
Your movement will go nowhere with your present tactics to destroy freedom of choice. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF CHOICE ? Look it up in the dictionary. Here is some definitions
"noun
an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities : the choice between good and evil.
• the right or ability to make, or possibility of making, such a selection : I had to do it, I had no choice.
• a range of possibilities from which one or more may be selected : you can have a sofa made to order in a choice of over forty fabrics.
• a course of action, thing, or person that is selected or decided upon : this CD drive is the perfect choice for your computer."
Actually, that was in response to saying the "sick man" Mr. Obama, likes to encourage talks with "killers". Unless you don't think President Obama should speak to people who are considering or have had abortions? Shall we send them to some sort of internment camp as well? Please refrain from referring to arguments as fallacious when you are not even entirely sure what is going on, it's just embarassing for you. I'm assuming the ignorant Lou was referring to Obama speaking to "known terrorists" (the hypocrisy is biblical in its proportions) and other world leaders; as opposed to just dropping bombs on their countries, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians and not even getting the ones you want. The latter sounds rather asinine no? Or do YOU know where Osama is Lou, just smoking him out I assume?
kit, I read your words in their entirety. Here's my response:
I fully realize the issue of abortion. Abortion (whether you wish to ignore the definition or not) is about intentional destruction of innocent human life. I will forever talk about the killing of unborn human beings, because exposing evil is always moral. I never said that killing unborn babies is not the same as killing humans in wars, starvation, etc. I've made it clear that I oppose the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I'm an American citizen here. Some hypocritical liberals support possible wars in Pakistan (and love the war hawks in the proposed Barack Obama cabinet), but they oppose the war in Iraq. Roe v. Wade was about legal sanction of killing people. Roe says that you can kill innocent unborn babies under certain circumstances. We just disagree on that issue. We have a right to disagree. Roe v. Wade supported the lie that the ripping apart of a child's organs is equated to choice or privacy rights. Yet, there is not a single word in the Constitution saying that destroying unborn lives is about choice at all. The Supreme Court just used deception in promoting that myth.
I understand the court decision of Roe, so I don't need to be reminded of it. I never stereotype liberals either. Many liberals are pro-life. I just criticize the extremist pro-abortion crowd that hate any restrictions on abortion. I don't consider real freedom of choice to be equated to abortion at all. So, I do believe that freedom of choice is not a license to kill. I do have a right to speak my mind on issues. I don't have a right to control your life. On the otherhand, I have every right to stop murder, expose corruption, and propose changes to unjust laws. That's in the Constitution also. The Constitution limits human behavior on many levels. That means you can't do what you want whenever you want, unless you are willing to violate many laws (and violate many moral principle). I have read the Constitution before. Your arrogance about us being ignorant of the Constitution deserves no further commentary at all.
Barack Obama can make abortion more avaliable with the FOCA law or him changing certain executive orders. There is nothing wrong with sincere dissent at all. Dissent is as American as apple pie. I don't believe in fear, except fear in God. I don't gain support by promoting unnecessary fear. I do gain support by utilizing logical arguments, making sure that real history is shown, and possessing a fearless determination to strengthen the pro-life movement. I do things constructive. That is another misconnection you make of pro-life people. Pro-Life people for decades have supported education, create crisis pregnancy centers, protest, read, advance anti-AIDS programs, etc. to make a difference in society. These actions are not only done in America, but worldwide.
You understand this, but you seem to want to promote stereotypes about pro-life individuals. Judgments? Passing judgments about war, peace, society, etc. is apart of free speech. Judging evil as wrong is apart of our human duty. I will pass judgments on immorality and expose destructive actions as wrong. We Pro-Lifers are educated, we do read, and we have plenty of intelligence in our mind. These are other stereotypes you bring without exposing what abortion is. Abortion is about killing people. It's just as wrong as immoral wars. My mother not aborting me is more than just about her harboring a good choice. It's a blessing. To bring up a mother in a conversation to justify Roe is not disrespectful and sick, but outlines the desperation you have in trying to advance the agenda of Roe.
Our movement doesn't want to destroy the freedom of choice in America. You just want to destroy the freedom of choice for the unborn. Choice means nothing if a baby dies. Abortion ends choices. It doesn't promote choices at all. That's pretty simple to comprehend.
Not to mention that I oppose toxic chemicals shipped from China into America. I oppose melanine in our baby formula. I oppose flouridation of our water supply as well. Therefore, I mention these things. To call any form of dissent with Obama as exhibiting racism is not only silly but nearly draconian. Now, we can't dissent?
Obama is a sick man. Among his deviant proposals are:
- Pay for poor American women to kill their little ones. The victims will be mostly black and brown, something the KKK could only dream of.
- Send money to foreign agencies who will pay foreign women to kill their little ones. The victims will be mostly brown and black.
- Reverse the ability to ban partial-birth abortions. Stabbing babies in the skull and sucking their brains out is an Obama family value.
Obama is a sick man.
you sound deranged Lou. Utterly and thoroughly deranged. Your fascination with sucking brains out of babies heads is extremely off-putting and awkward to read. Is Obama also going to make a big baby brain stew and serve it to homeless people?
Also, your comment implies that only "Brown and Black" women find themselves needing abortions. Is that some sort of implication that "Brown and Black" people are morally inferior? Do you have proof that only "brown and black" people have majority of abortions...? Better question, are you familiar with the geography of the places that produce "Brown and Black" people, can you spell the names of the countries etc? Have you completed High School? Are you a contributing member of society? How many alien vs. predator movies do you actually own and how many times have you viewed them?
"Is Obama also going to make a big baby brain stew and serve it to homeless people?"
No, Obama cares little for poor people. The Obamas earned $1,200,000 between 2000-04 and gave less than 1% to charity.
BO has a brother that lives in a shack made of garbage.
I'm "deranged," but you're cooking up recipes "baby brain stew."
Janine: "Also, your comment implies that only "Brown and Black" women find themselves needing abortions... Do you have proof that only "brown and black" people have majority of abortions...?"
Take a remedial reading course before challenging my intelligence. I wrote very clearly that the victims of Obama's policies "will be mostly brown and black." In fact, I wrote it twice.
Obama is a sick man and you're illiterate.
No substance to even respond to - just insults... typical.
Oh Lou :)
Lou, it's interesting that you would say that I'm illiterate when I simply re-stated what you had already said; "The victims will be mostly black and brown" (your words) is the exact same thing as "Do you have proof that only "brown and black" people have majority of abortions...?" (mine) just with different words! :) No Lou, a Thesaurus is not a type of dinosaur.
Unless you really are as rascist as you sound?
TO TIM & LOU: Let's try a little "devil's advocate" here: suppose Obama is pro abortion. So what? What does that do for you? You guys say Bush wasn't, but abortions still went on, right? So who really cares what one man believes?
The NRA is pro gun. They advocate the sale of automatic assault rifles to anyone. What are they used for? Hunting? No. Their only legitimate use is for killing, usually humans. DOES THAT MEAN I HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY ONE AND KILL PEOPLE? No!
Whatever Obama believes or doesn't doesn't really matter. Abortion is legal in many countries...those where it is the most legal seem to have lower abortion rates though. So, abortion was legal during Bush's 8 and his pop's 4 years...12 years there and we still had abortions even though they were theoretically ANTI-abortion!
Your concerns over Obama just don't compute! So far, you have not come up with anything constructive to slow unwanted pregnancies (won't even speak to the issue as though you don't get it that sex leads to pregnancy and pregnancy leads to abortions or births).
What constructive thing can you come up with that will slow unwanted pregnancy? Name it and then work on it, don't go after Obama with the blame game crap, your President didn't do anything and here we are. Try constructive ideas, they work better. You get more flies with honey remember than vinegar!
Keep in mind it was theoretically anti-abortion Presidents who put the 5 supreme court justices on the court that gave us Roe v Wade to begin with. You have to convince the people to stop unwanted pregnancies to solve this problem. Whether abortion is legal or not doesn't matter. Before 73 I found I knew 3 people in my little circle of knowledge who had had abortions. There were probably more. One couple Nazi death camp survivors. One a relative and one a non-close friend. So who would you blame for that?
According to the Guttmacher Institute (Planned Parenthood), "Thirty-seven percent of abortions occur to black women,...22% to Hispanic women..."
37 + 22 = 59
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
If BO has his way and the Federal government starts paying butchers to kill the little ones of poor women, the number of black and brown children on Death Roe will substantially increase.
That I'm challenged on such well known information illustrates how ignorant people are of abortion.
http://www.blackgenocide.org/home.html
Janine, Marylin, Kit, "here YOU ALL go again". THIS IS FOR ALL OF YOU:
Honestly, you have so much misinformation in your heads, it's making mine hurt. Stop BEING so uninformed, go do some reading on sources other than the ones you usually do. There is a whole world of truth you know nothing about. Stop wasting your and our time, trying to toss more stuff up to us that we've already disproven many times before, unless and until YOU defend and answer for your mistaken beliefs. You have a lot of researching to do before you're ready to stop looking as ill-informed as you do.
You could start with the Sidebar of After Abortion blog, or the sections called Science / Health, ABORTION STATS, "STUDIES", MENTIONS, MYTHS, in the Abortion Pundit blog's sidebar.
I could give a rat's a** about eyeballs on my site, folks. Those links are simply full of objective studies and THEIR links. Don't say you were not given some help in how to start your real homework.
"Mr Obama AND liberals" DO IN FACT "believe what Lou stated in the DEC 4 tread [sic]." ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN ABORTION and especially PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION, BELIEVES IN ALL THOSE THINGS. These are NOT lies, folks! This just proves you haven't a flipping clue what abortion really looks like and how it's done!!
"Your radical anti-abortion views are just as "radical" as you claim Obama's to be. Extremes in any scenario are not good for anyone." You're wrong about both parts but as for the second part: in our case, they're good for the unborn AND for the mothers who can avoid abortion by finding the help that we and others like us provide, all over the country.
"RvW was not about killing."
You'd like to think that, it keeps your world safe. You're wrong though. Go read the answer to that here. Or read the whole article here, and check the original source links inside that article for yourselves.
Go read what a few dozen world-renowned embryologists and med school textbooks say about when a human being comes into being.
You can't. You won't.
You don't want to know the truth.
You'll call those scientists racists, bigots, smearers or liars too. You have to, to justify your belief that abortion is "good for women, that it's the woman's body, that's it just about 'choice.'" NONE of that is true, yet you have to believe that it is, or your worlds, your whole basis for your lives, comes crashing down on you, as it did on me, after I realized what my abortion really was, years later.
Anyone pointing out the real truths, even those noted scientists, and the truth that Obama IS in fact "the ultra abortionist president" is only pointing out the truth that you refuse to accept!
THAT YOU HATE HEARING IT AND DON'T LIKE THESE TRUTHS, doesn't make these truths any less true.
It is you, Janine, Marylin, tom, kit, who apparently aren't "intelligent enought [sic] to read and understand the content of the decision handed down by the supreme court."
You "liberals ARE insensitive to the issue of abortion as mentioned in your comments and as mention by Lou." IT IS YOU WHO HAVE "missed the boat on the real issue of abortion as it relates to choice. Freedom of choice IS a license to kill."
It is YOU, and the mass media, lots of money-hungry doctors who rewrote their Hippocratic oath and fudged the true definition of when human life begins to allow for abortion, and many lawyers and even most of the then-Supreme Court who dodged the question, who are telling those of US who know and stand for the truth as it really is that YOU "have the right to tell others what to think, to do, to believe and how to live their life."
THAT is what we rail against, for the sake of the moms and the children, contrary to whatever the media has told you to believe. That is what we WILL rail against and we WILL educate people about, till our dying day.
Deal with it, Marylin, Janine, kit, tom and all who believe as you do.
Educate yourselves or you're wasting your and our time here. I could spend all day, all night, EVERY DAY, for the rest of my life, debunking all the garbage claims and misinformed gobbledygook you've smeared on the wall here. It wouldn't make any difference to you, I know that. I've been attempting to educate folks who think as you do for the past 5 years, all across the web. Some get it, some don't. I get that.
But if you (continue to) choose not to really DYOR to dig up the whole, real truth and nothing but the truth, that is your "choice." Just don't expect to earn much respect here. You won't be hijacking these comboxes with your arrogant ignorance and warrantless personal attacks, that's all.
It is YOU who are duped, not us.
By choosing Obama, it is YOU who have "devided [sic] the country." By denying these truths about the man, and about abortion, you are choosing catastrophe and fear for this country, not us.
We won't be a forum for that, here on this blog. If you want to put forth your own misguided and baseless hatred of anyone who sees and accepts the truth, if you want to put forth your blinded idolatry of Obama, you will have to go elsewhere. You won't ever see the light or the truth, here or anywhere. You can't afford to allow yourselves to.