Summing up the "Onion" flap

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The hate mail continues to flow in like water. The "intellectual left" continues to throw every cuss word in the dictionary at me. (yes, I said "cuss", not "curse", that drives them nuts too...past experience, believe me)

I won't be responding to any more of the hate mail so don't bother writing it. I created a mail rule which will automatically trash it. No, we won't open up our comments to you people who have nothing better to do than fill our comments up with your hate. Funny, how come you members of the "intellectual left" can't say two sentences without cussing?

Oh well, about the Onion article

99% of that satirical piece is purporting to describe (in a "satirical" way) the physical and emotional pain of the abortion to the woman, not the baby. This statement really tells it all:

"The funny thing is, I actually have the pro-life movement to thank for this opportunity. If my HMO wouldn't have bowed to their pressure not to cover oral contraceptives, I never would've gotten pregnant in the first place."

Do you see how they slip their agenda into a "satirical" piece? Oral contraceptives cause abortions too, just at an earlier stage than hospital abortions. Contraception is the direction of the pro-abortion movement, because they know America is waking up to the fact that abortion kills human beings and it should not have been decriminalized by the Supreme Court.

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Don't you just love being told how unintelligent and uneducated you are by people who send emails like:

"You r @#$%ing dum you think fetus is people why u so anti woman"

or

"You can't tell us what to do with our bodies, you @#$#* #(@#*(*( @#$*(%#@$(* @#$(%#$*( $%(*#$(@* !!!!"

It's a shame you can't see the comment threads on the original site anymore. Out of almost 2,000 comments (I think - Haloscan's counter stopped so there may be more), absolutely none read like your examples.

Admittedly, there were a few nasty comments obviously left by folks just wanting in on the internet's hottest party, but the VAST majority of the comments were written by well-educated, intelligent, articulate folks (MANY of whom mentioned being 'pro-life', BTW) who just could not believe what they were reading.

Peter came off as not passionate and driven by his zeal to serve his cause, but as a clueless and sanctimonious jerk who continued to make the same silly error even after having it repeatedly pointed out to him by hundreds of people.


On second thought, though, what Peter did really was amazing - for one brief, shining moment, people on both sides of an incredibly divisive issue came together in their disbelief of such stupidity and their relentless mockery of a man who desperately deserved it.

You're an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes indeed, what a pity I can't see the original comments. Certainly I would have absolutely no reason to doubt you. I'm sure that only a handful of people used extreme vulgarities, and only a tiny minority of the "well-educated, intelligent, articulate folks" told Peter what a woman-hating fascist @#$% he is who needs to learn how to take a joke. Haha, abortion, what a funny topic! What's the next topic due up for jokes? Is it the Holocaust? Maybe it's AIDS? How about Hiroshima?

JWL.

Your the only one saying or implying that abortion is a joke here.

Hers the link to the comments.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/turnstile/115271854178491623/?a=49715

Some ARE from people acting like children while others are from very concerned people on both sides of this issue.

The issue is Peter took satire as reality and commecnted on it. Then when told of his faux pau he continued on his way like he made no mistake. Condeming people that were trying to let him know he was commecnting on a "fake" story 1999. Then al of a sudden he comes out and admits he was kidding. Alot of people dodt believe him. Be cause of that and spposedly because someone posted his personal info on the commecnts section ( which was available on his site and a few others) he turned off "comments" on his blog. Which people believe to be him hiding from the issue.

Its not about abortion being a joke. Its about Peter misguided condemnation and lack of any honor to come clean.

You're an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very probably I am.

I suppose I'll just have to console myself with the knowledge that I, at least, have managed to not be the laughingstock of a good portion of the civilized world.

"Your the only one saying or implying that abortion is a joke here."

Oh, so The Onion is not a satirical site? It wasn't making light of abortion? Peter wasn't chastised for taking offense at it?

"Some ARE from people acting like children while others are from very concerned people on both sides of this issue."

The vast majority are throwing infantile ad hominem attacks at Peter. It's hardly the intelligent discussion Peggy made it out to be.

Yep, these folks here most definitely are not making light of abortion:

http://marchtogetheragainst.blogspot.com/

"I suppose I'll just have to console myself with the knowledge that I, at least, have managed to not be the laughingstock of a good portion of the civilized world."

A good portion of the civilized world? The Onion?! You need to get out more.


Did Peter think that The Onion story was real? Apparently so. That was a mistake. However, it is not a mistake to think that the article makes light of abortion and mocks pro-lifers.

This is exactly why we call you people "pro-abortion". You don't think that abortion is a 'sad, tragic choice', because if you did, you wouldn't mock the victims of abortion and call pro-lifers every vicious insult ever thought up.

"However, it is not a mistake to think that the article makes light of abortion and mocks pro-lifers."

That is NOT the issue of all the flaming Peter has received.

I'll repeat: "Its not about abortion being a joke. Its about Peter misguided condemnation and lack of any honor to come clean."

Peter lied and got caught. Now he is back-pedaling and hiding. ( By turning off "comments")That is the issue at hand. NOT whether abortion is this or that. Please stop trying to change the agrument.

"Peter lied and got caught. Now he is back-pedaling and hiding. ( By turning off "comments")That is the issue at hand. NOT whether abortion is this or that. Please stop trying to change the agrument."

Uh, no. Peter has admitted that he made a mistake in thinking that The Onion story was true. I guess it's time for you folks to let it go. I know that's hard for you liberals, who endlessly obsess over trifles and faux pas and try to find people to mindlessly yell "hypocrisy!" at while the world goes down the toilet.

Of course Peter was embarrassed when he realized that The Onion story was satirical. And your answer to that embarrassment was to kick him in the teeth repeatedly, ignoring his point about how even if that example was false, there are women who are 'psyched' about abortion, because he has personally met them.

Heres the problem with you anti-choicers, You make up the truth to fit your version of reality.

P{etere did NOT admit to making a mistake. After being alled out for several days he stated that his peice was his version of satire.

"Of course Peter was embarrassed when he realized that The Onion story"

Really? then why did he say that his piece was satire?

"And your answer to that embarrassment was to kick him in the teeth repeatedly,"

First I never kicked anybody in the teeth and second had he come clean from the beginning this issue would never have gotten this far. It was Peter's stubborn refusal to admit a mistake that had people attacking him.

"ignoring his point about how even if that example was false, there are women who are 'psyched' about abortion"

No one is "psyched" about having an abortion. Please stop believing that. These girls that are supposedly excited about having the procedure are using that "excitment" as a front to hide the shame and hurt that they feel about making that choice. And even if there are the few that DO use the procedure as a form of birth control they are the minority. Like someone that use the name of God to kill someone else because they dont believe what they believe. A minority, not everyone!

Also, Its nice to see depth of your faith in your belief-system with the use of phrases like "the world is going down the toilet"

People have being saying that since the use of the printed word and yet here we are. Oh by the way the above was a change in topic. Since you have tried twice to change the subject I thought I would also.

"Heres the problem with you anti-choicers, You make up the truth to fit your version of reality."

Hilarious; using the lie of "anti-choice" to accuse me of being against reality.

"P{etere did NOT admit to making a mistake."

"Needless to say, a few people wanted to let me know that I was a dolt for thinking that her article was real. As a matter of fact, call me a dolt, because in the beginning I really did think it was real."

-Peter http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/07/satire.php

"After being alled out for several days he stated that his peice was his version of satire."

Who cares? Whatever he said then, now he says that he thought it was real. He screwed up. Get over it.

"Really? then why did he say that his piece was satire?"

Because he was embarrassed?

"First I never kicked anybody in the teeth and second had he come clean from the beginning this issue would never have gotten this far. It was Peter's stubborn refusal to admit a mistake that had people attacking him."

Yes, just like tolerant little liberals who make a big deal out of idiotic BS and make light out of life and death issues like abortion. Who cares if Peter screwed up and, embarrassed, said that he hadn't screwed up, only to finally admit in the end, OK, I screwed up? Why are you people so vindictive? Let it go, will you?

"No one is "psyched" about having an abortion."

Yes, they are.

"Please stop believing that."

I believe it because it's the truth. You pro-aborts have convinced people that an unborn child is no better than a tumor, and who wouldn't be happy about being cured of cancer?

"These girls that are supposedly excited about having the procedure are using that "excitment" as a front to hide the shame and hurt that they feel about making that choice."

Right. Why is it shameful to be cured of a disease, which is what you pro-aborts have spoken of pregnancy as for decades? If you have cancer, is it shameful to seek treatment?

"And even if there are the few that DO use the procedure as a form of birth control they are the minority."

Oh? So what's the main reason why abortion is "chosen"? Economic factors? Contraception failure? I hate to break it to you, but using abortion for those purposes is birth control.

"Like someone that use the name of God to kill someone else because they dont believe what they believe. A minority, not everyone!"

Well, I'm glad you admit that you pro-aborts are in the minority.

"Also, Its nice to see depth of your faith in your belief-system with the use of phrases like "the world is going down the toilet""

What can I say; Satan's influence is quite powerful in people like you. Satan wants to flush the world down the toilet, and you pro-abortion folks delight in pressing down the handle for him.

"People have being saying that since the use of the printed word and yet here we are. Oh by the way the above was a change in topic. Since you have tried twice to change the subject I thought I would also."

Yeah, sorry I interrupted your one-sided, mindless, pointless, idiotic bashing of Peter. Perhaps now that Peter has admitted that he made a mistake, you can shut up and find some other meaningless trifle to obsess over?

"Hilarious; using the lie of "anti-choice" to accuse me of being against reality"

I never said you were "against" reality, you did.

Anti-choice is not a lie. The movement you take part in is at its core about making abortion illegal. Which would take the choice away from women whether they could have an abortion legally, hence anti-choice.

"Whatever he said then, now he says that he thought it was real. He screwed up. Get over it."

Please show me the quote where he came clean and admitted it. Not claim his posts were satire but admit he was mistaken.

"I believe it because it's the truth. You pro-aborts have convinced people that an unborn child is no better than a tumor, and who wouldn't be happy about being cured of cancer?"

Thats the problem. You believe anything your told by your "leaders" blindly. Without any realistic questions or searching for your own answers. You live your life by your faith and want everyone else to live that way too. Whether they believe in what you believe in or not. Yours is the ONLY, FINAL answer and everyone else's is wrong. Leading to the problem of where life begins and why the fight for/against abortion continues.


"Oh? So what's the main reason why abortion is "chosen"? Economic factors? Contraception failure?"

Sure, OK, but please include medical reasons in there. The thing is I have no problem with birth control I dont think it is evil. But you do, which is fine with me but why is it SO important to you that no one else can use it. If its bad and evil for you then dont use it. Why do you feel you have to make that choice for all of us? Why does everyone have to live life like you do? Please dont use your God as the reason because according to your own document its up to Him to make judgement not you.

"Yeah, sorry I interrupted your one-sided, mindless, pointless, idiotic bashing of Peter."

I never insulted you. Why did you insult me? Insults like that usually come from anger which if im correct according to your belief system is a sin. I would hope for your sake you atone for it.


"I never said you were "against" reality, you did."

And now begin the word games.

"Anti-choice is not a lie."

It's a lie of omission. If you weren't a liar, you would call it the "right to choose to kill your baby", and thus we are "anti-the-choice-to-kill-your-baby".

"Please show me the quote where he came clean and admitted it. Not claim his posts were satire but admit he was mistaken."

Hey idiot, I just posted his actual words and a link to them.

"Thats the problem. You believe anything your told by your "leaders" blindly."

Uh, no. I saw pregnancy being compared to cancer on pro-abortion websites, not pro-life ones. You lose.

"Without any realistic questions or searching for your own answers. You live your life by your faith and want everyone else to live that way too."

Actually, no, I'm quite happy with people like you staying far, far away from Christian churches. I would be even happier if you would condemn Christianity more often. At least you would then be honest.

"Whether they believe in what you believe in or not. Yours is the ONLY, FINAL answer and everyone else's is wrong. Leading to the problem of where life begins and why the fight for/against abortion continues."

According to basic biology, life begins at conception. The argument is whether or not you think that early human life has value. You say that a human doesn't have worth until he takes a breath outside the womb and magically comes to life. I agree with the scientific facts instead of the magical explanations of the pro-abortion crowd.

"Sure, OK, but please include medical reasons in there. The thing is I have no problem with birth control I dont think it is evil."

Oh ho, so you have no problem with birth control abortions, then! But you just told me that such people who support birth control abortions are in the minority. Why are you such a liar? Now I will hound you across the internet until you admit to being a liar, and after you admit that you screwed up, I will keep emailing you, annoying you, calling you a liar.

See how idiotic that is?

"But you do, which is fine with me but why is it SO important to you that no one else can use it."

Did I or any other pro-lifer ever say that we don't think anyone should be allowed to use birth control? Personally I just don't want to anyone to be forced to sell it or pay for it. But you, the "pro-choice" folks, say that if we don't want our tax dollars to pay for condoms and birth control pills, that means we're for "banning contraception!".

"If its bad and evil for you then dont use it. Why do you feel you have to make that choice for all of us? Why does everyone have to live life like you do?"

Maybe you should stop unquestionably obeying your "leaders", because your arguments have nothing to do with any pro-life position.

"Please dont use your God as the reason because according to your own document its up to Him to make judgement not you."

Please, don't. Feel free to bash Christianity, but don't try to cite Christian theology to me. That's just embarrassing, and you people always make complete fools of yourselves when you try.

We can tell what is good and what is evil because God told us what is good and what is evil. By your pseudo-theology, we would offend God if we called a murderer a murderer, since that would be judging him.

"I never insulted you. Why did you insult me?"

Because you're an idiot.

"Insults like that usually come from anger"

What anger? I'm being matter-of-fact here.

"which if im correct according to your belief system is a sin. I would hope for your sake you atone for it."

Well, since you are incredibly ignorant about my belief system which you have a completely irrational and illogical hatred for, there's nothing to worry about.

Well, after answering JWL's last post and clicking POST I received a message that I wasnt logged in to typekey and all that is gone

Ill see if that POST shows up and if not Ill repost my orignal reply...

"Hey idiot, I just posted his actual words and a link to them."

The link provided was him stating that his posts were his satire.

Ive been thinking since I tried to post before and came to a conclusion.

"According to basic biology, life begins at conception"

I dont believe this as a true statment. I dont, and you can not and will not change my mind. You have no proof. The so called proof you will mindlessly spew out at this point is NOT proof. And it will not change my mind so stating it is a waste of time.

Thats a big problem when trying to communicate with someone.

We refuse to hear each other. Just attack and defend postions like a battlefield.

I can tell you that; until ALL children are, born with reasonable means to be raised safe, healthy, loved and educated equally. That woman are not at risk giving birth I will believe in abortion rights.

You believe what you do and Ill believe what I do. I believe that life does not begin at conception. I dont believe when women have an abortion that they are killing babies. Show me all pictures you want. Yell at me all you want. Say Im gonna burn...whatever I dont believe it.

I guess Im insane to you. I guess you feel rightous. Good whatever gets you through the day.

We will never agree and this conversation can go no where

Thanks to Prolifeblogs.com for letting me have my say without censor.

Good day.


""Hey idiot, I just posted his actual words and a link to them."


"The link provided was him stating that his posts were his satire.

Ive been thinking since I tried to post before and came to a conclusion"

Sorry I forgot to add to the last post

You were right and I was wrong. Peter did come clean.

Grey Area finally admits:

"You were right and I was wrong."

That's right, folks, he can be taught! Of course he also denies basic biological fact, but what do you expect?




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