President Bush: Pro-Life (with 'three exceptions')

| 7 Comments | 1 TrackBack

WASHINGTON, February 28, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Scott McClellan, the principal spokesman for U.S. President George W. Bush said in a press conference yesterday that the President supports abortion in three cases - rape, incest, and the life of the mother.

A reporter asked a question regarding the South Dakota legislation which bans abortion except to save the life of the mother which is likely to be signed by the Governor (see coverage here)

"The state legislature of South Dakota has just passed a new law which allows abortion in case of threat to the mother's life, but denies it to all ages in cases of rape and incest, said the reporter. He then asked, "Does the President believe that rape and incest victims should be denied the right to an abortion?" McLellan responded saying, "the President has made very clear that he is pro-life with three exceptions." While McLellan did not state those exceptions they are widely assumed to be rape, incest and the life of the mother.

McLellan premised those remarks noting, "The President believes we ought to be working to build a culture of life in America. And we have taken practical, common-sense steps to help reduce the number of abortions in America. It is a strong record that is based on building a culture of life."

The remarks were taken to indicate that the President would oppose the South Dakota (SD) legislation, however that was never said.

Physicians have noted that the notion of abortion to save the life of the mother is unnecessary with modern medicine. Moreover, pro-life philosophers have long warned of the dangers of allowing for rape and incest exceptions to abortion since it devalues the lives of unborn children. They are no less children because of the unfortunate circumstances of their conception. Even though most pro-life activists oppose capital punishment, a thought provoking saying on the issue runs: "Why kill the innocent child and not the guilty rapist?"

Source: LifeSiteNews

7 Comments

Abortion will never be out-lawed until we quit making exceptions in cases of rape, incest, and the health of the mother. All this is saying is the life that has been conceived under these circumstances has less value than that which has been conceived under optimal conditions and circumstances. When you place an exception for the health of the mother, what constitutes health; depression caused by the pregnancy? Attempted sucide because she doesn't want to be pregnant? All it is doing is creating an excuse to terminate the life of the child because the woman does not want to go through with her pregnancy. If President Bush is really pro-life as he says he is he will not make excuses for these so-called exceptions.

Seth - agreed .... McClellan's statements are certainly a sobering reality check although not at all unexpected.

I don't think that this really matters. Any pro-life law that anyone tries to pass will be struck down as 'unconstitutional' as long as Roe v. Wade stands. The only way to do away with Roe v. Wade is to appoint Originalist and/or pro-life Justices to the Supreme Court. Once Roe is gone, we can have this debate within the pro-life community.

It doesn't matter if the law is pro-life with no exceptions, pro-life one exception, pro-life with three exceptions, or pro-life with a hundred exceptions -- it WILL be struck down while Roe stands.

JWL is absolutely right. Until Roe falls, this debate is totally moot. Moreover, if we manage to alienate enough of the squishy "moderates", we'll kill our own cause....

Please, please, please ... let's keep our eyes on the goal. Incremental measures are not the same as collaboration. When slavery was ended in this country, it wasn't ended in one bold move, but rather in small increments. Abortion will be ended in the same way. Take the gains that are available today, and press for more tomorrow.

Most pro-life people who state these exceptions do not include the health of the mother. It's usually the life of the mother, rape, and incest.

Where did the title of this post come from? I haven't figured out how supporting the legality of abortion in these three cases constitutes supporting abortion in these cases. Thinking someone has a right to it doesn't amount to thinking it's good, which is what it means to support something. The president clearly does not advocate recommending to people to have abortions in these cases. He just isn't willing to prevent people from having them in those situations (if he had the power to prevent it to begin with, which he doesn't).

I don't think it's true that most pro-lifers are opposed to the death penalty. It may be that most Catholic pro-lifers are against it, but it's certainly not true among evangelicals, who are as far as I can tell the main bulk of the pro-life voting bloc in the red states. It's certainly standard the GOP view to be opposed to abortion but in favor of capital punishment.

It isn't necessarily inconsistent to favor legal abortion and illegal capital punishment, though. The reverse position is consistent if it's ok to kill the guilty who deserve it but wrong to kill an innocent child who is yet unborn. But the position many liberals hold is also consistent if it's wrong to kill persons of any sort even if guilty but perfectly ok to kill non-persons. I don't for a minute believe a fetus to be a non-person, but I can see how the view is consistent.

It's worth raising these questions to get people to think about whether they agree with what's necessary to make the view consistent, but that doesn't mean everyone holding that combination of views is being inconsistent in doing so.

His own words:

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/010306_b_abortion.htm

Talk Back - leave a comment


Receive Updates

Enter your Email


button02b.gif

Categories

Archives

Recent Comments

catholicsview.wordpress.com: "I'll be there! What an awesome site! Please ..."

Rex Vollstedt: "The problem is Dr.Charles Murray doesn't have a ..."

rebecca: "I cannot comment on the "bogusness" of XCell ..."

C. Fitzroy: "Your post is interesting as an example of ..."

birthmom.myopenid.com: "GREAT POST! ..."

rebecca: "Thanks Christina. This is true and I mention ..."

Christina: "Actually, the biggest barrier to ASCR in the ..."

Pro-Life Articles

add your site
Sudan Watch Nov 7, 2009, 6:06 pm
Caffeinated Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 6:46 pm
Voice of Revolution Nov 7, 2009, 6:26 pm
Values Voter News Nov 7, 2009, 11:01 am
Pro-Life Unity Nov 7, 2009, 10:45 pm
John Smeaton, SPUC director Nov 7, 2009, 6:10 pm
THE LAMB ON THE ALTAR Nov 5, 2009, 11:09 pm
The Common Room Nov 7, 2009, 11:42 am
Chris Dickson Nov 7, 2009, 11:39 am
Caffeinated Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 5:34 pm
To Be a Mother Nov 7, 2009, 9:19 am
Political Byline Nov 7, 2009, 3:33 pm
Musings at 85 Nov 7, 2009, 4:53 pm
In the Agora Nov 7, 2009, 2:41 pm
Stop The ACLU Nov 7, 2009, 5:19 pm
Wheat & Weeds Nov 7, 2009, 11:38 am
NoisyRoom.net Nov 7, 2009, 3:58 pm
LifeSiteNews.com Headlines Nov 7, 2009, 4:25 pm
Jeremiah Films Announcements Nov 7, 2009, 3:26 pm
Jeremiah Films Announcements Nov 7, 2009, 3:32 pm
DEACON FOR LIFE Nov 7, 2009, 10:19 am
Catholic Fire Nov 7, 2009, 10:03 am
2SecondsFaster.com Nov 7, 2009, 4:02 pm
Pro-Life Unity Nov 7, 2009, 7:54 pm
Pro-Life Unity Nov 7, 2009, 8:17 pm
Political Byline Nov 7, 2009, 3:33 pm
Jeremiah Films Announcements Nov 7, 2009, 3:13 pm
Gribbit's Word Nov 7, 2009, 2:32 pm
Gabriella's Blog Nov 7, 2009, 3:18 pm
Fundamentally Reformed Nov 7, 2009, 2:34 pm
The Common Room Nov 7, 2009, 5:29 am
The Common Room Nov 7, 2009, 8:38 am
Threshing Grain Nov 7, 2009, 8:05 am
Les Femmes - The Truth Nov 7, 2009, 1:31 pm
Les Femmes - The Truth Nov 7, 2009, 8:31 am
Dr Roy's Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 1:54 pm
Stop The ACLU Nov 7, 2009, 2:19 pm
Stop The ACLU Nov 7, 2009, 2:19 pm
Americans United for Life Blog Nov 7, 2009, 1:48 pm
Adrian Warnock Nov 7, 2009, 1:15 pm
A Catholic View Nov 7, 2009, 1:17 pm
Values Voter News Nov 7, 2009, 5:21 am
My Chocolate Heart Nov 7, 2009, 1:23 pm
Les Femmes - The Truth Nov 7, 2009, 12:18 pm
Les Femmes - The Truth Nov 7, 2009, 7:18 am
The Common Room Nov 7, 2009, 7:00 am
Stop The ACLU Nov 7, 2009, 1:19 pm
Deliberate Engagement Nov 7, 2009, 1:06 pm
Chris Dickson Nov 7, 2009, 6:51 am
Caffeinated Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 12:47 pm
Values Voter News Nov 7, 2009, 5:01 am
NoisyRoom.net Nov 7, 2009, 11:46 am
Love Undefiled Nov 7, 2009, 11:55 am
Love Undefiled Nov 7, 2009, 11:59 am
Love Undefiled Nov 7, 2009, 12:15 pm
Love Undefiled Nov 7, 2009, 12:04 pm
jillstanek.com Nov 7, 2009, 11:24 am
jillstanek.com Nov 7, 2009, 11:47 am
Guarino Nov 7, 2009, 11:56 am
The Judge Report Nov 7, 2009, 12:09 pm
Stop The ACLU Nov 7, 2009, 12:19 pm
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 12:19 pm
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 12:19 pm
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 12:19 pm
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 12:19 pm
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 12:19 pm
DEACON FOR LIFE Nov 7, 2009, 6:58 am
DEACON FOR LIFE Nov 7, 2009, 7:03 am
Challies Dot Com Nov 7, 2009, 11:22 am
Americans United for Life Blog Nov 7, 2009, 11:39 am
Verum Serum Nov 7, 2009, 11:44 am
Pro-Life With Christ Nov 7, 2009, 11:35 am
Preserving A Generation Nov 7, 2009, 11:00 am
OrthodoxyToday Nov 7, 2009, 10:42 am
Mommy Life Nov 7, 2009, 10:49 am
MCCL Blog Nov 7, 2009, 10:29 am
LifeSiteNews.com Headlines Nov 7, 2009, 11:25 am
Dr Roy's Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 11:02 am
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 11:19 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 10:44 am
BIG BLUE WAVE Nov 7, 2009, 5:19 am
Americans United for Life Blog Nov 7, 2009, 10:22 am
Values Voter News Nov 7, 2009, 3:01 am
V for Victory! Nov 7, 2009, 3:46 am
RealChoice Nov 7, 2009, 4:53 am
Pro-Life With Christ Nov 7, 2009, 10:35 am
Pro-Life Unity Nov 7, 2009, 3:16 pm
OrthodoxyToday Nov 7, 2009, 7:13 am
OrthodoxyToday Nov 7, 2009, 10:20 am
Dr Roy's Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 9:28 am
Stop The ACLU Nov 7, 2009, 10:19 am
Christian Newswire: All Releases Nov 7, 2009, 11:32 am
Pro-Life Unity Nov 7, 2009, 2:03 pm
Mommy Life Nov 7, 2009, 9:03 am
jillstanek.com Nov 7, 2009, 8:26 am
donmargolis.com Nov 7, 2009, 12:43 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 7:35 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 8:17 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 8:19 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 8:21 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 8:24 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 8:27 am
Wheat & Weeds Nov 7, 2009, 3:45 am
Vivificat! Nov 7, 2009, 3:17 am
The Senescent Man Nov 7, 2009, 4:00 am
reasoned audacity Nov 7, 2009, 7:50 am
Pundit & Pundette Nov 7, 2009, 7:41 am
MaybeToday.org Jul 31, 2009, 11:16 pm
Love Undefiled Nov 7, 2009, 7:56 am
Jack Yoest Nov 7, 2009, 7:50 am
Hyscience Nov 7, 2009, 6:46 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 8:10 am
DFW Catholic.org Nov 7, 2009, 8:13 am
PARENTING FREEDOM.com Nov 7, 2009, 7:02 am
Dakota Voice (Blog) Nov 7, 2009, 6:30 am
Dr Roy's Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 6:04 am
Dakota Voice (Blog) Nov 7, 2009, 6:00 am
A Catholic View Nov 7, 2009, 6:00 am
Is Anybody There? Nov 6, 2009, 10:11 pm
Kevin Tracy Nov 7, 2009, 4:08 am
Holy Innocents, Long Beach Nov 6, 2009, 7:53 pm
Catholic Fire Nov 6, 2009, 9:25 pm
Values Voter News Nov 6, 2009, 7:01 pm
Is Anybody There? Nov 6, 2009, 9:19 pm
Holy Innocents, Long Beach Nov 6, 2009, 7:03 pm
Hawaii Right to Life Nov 6, 2009, 4:40 pm
Hawaii Right to Life Nov 6, 2009, 4:49 pm
Is Anybody There? Nov 6, 2009, 7:35 pm
Is Anybody There? Nov 6, 2009, 8:19 pm
FREEDOM EDEN Nov 6, 2009, 7:20 pm
Dakota Voice (Blog) Nov 7, 2009, 1:18 am
Pro-Life News Nov 7, 2009, 12:43 am
Pro-Life News Nov 7, 2009, 12:44 am
Is Anybody There? Nov 6, 2009, 7:04 pm
FREEDOM EDEN Nov 6, 2009, 7:01 pm
FREEDOM EDEN Nov 6, 2009, 7:11 pm
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 1:19 am
Spero News Nov 7, 2009, 1:19 am
Dakota Voice (Blog) Nov 7, 2009, 1:12 am
Caffeinated Thoughts Nov 7, 2009, 12:44 am
Pro-Life Unity Nov 7, 2009, 4:55 am
Pro-Life News Nov 7, 2009, 12:24 am
Pro-Life News Nov 7, 2009, 12:27 am
Pro-Life News Nov 7, 2009, 12:32 am
Pro-Life News Nov 7, 2009, 12:34 am
Papa Mike's Blog Nov 6, 2009, 11:44 pm
Mommy Life Nov 6, 2009, 11:21 pm
Life at the Frontier Nov 6, 2009, 6:42 pm
The Ohio Anglican.blog Nov 6, 2009, 7:00 pm
The Ohio Anglican.blog Nov 6, 2009, 7:05 pm
Deacon's Blog Nov 6, 2009, 9:22 pm
Conservative Heritage Times Nov 6, 2009, 11:26 pm
Sanctus Christopher Nov 6, 2009, 4:51 pm
Romans 15:4 Project Blog Nov 6, 2009, 5:05 pm
Political Byline Nov 6, 2009, 9:27 pm
LifeSiteNews.com Headlines Nov 6, 2009, 11:25 pm
LifeSiteNews.com Headlines Nov 6, 2009, 11:25 pm
LifeSiteNews.com Headlines Nov 6, 2009, 11:25 pm
LifeSiteNews.com Headlines Nov 6, 2009, 11:25 pm
Kevin McCullough's TownHall Blog Nov 6, 2009, 10:36 pm
Dr Roy's Thoughts Nov 6, 2009, 10:52 pm
The Common Room Nov 6, 2009, 4:16 pm
Values Voter News Nov 6, 2009, 3:01 pm
TRUE BLOG REALITY Nov 6, 2009, 4:25 pm
Papa Mike's Blog Nov 6, 2009, 10:20 pm
Let Her Live Nov 6, 2009, 9:49 pm
Hawaii Right to Life Nov 6, 2009, 11:31 am
Hawaii Right to Life Nov 6, 2009, 11:44 am
Guarino Nov 6, 2009, 10:12 pm
Stop The ACLU Nov 6, 2009, 10:19 pm
Stop The ACLU Nov 6, 2009, 10:19 pm
Deacon's Blog Nov 6, 2009, 9:22 pm
DEACON FOR LIFE Nov 6, 2009, 4:27 pm
Caffeinated Thoughts Nov 6, 2009, 9:27 pm
Political Byline Nov 6, 2009, 9:27 pm
My View of the World Nov 6, 2009, 8:37 pm
Les Femmes - The Truth Nov 6, 2009, 8:59 pm
Les Femmes - The Truth Nov 6, 2009, 3:59 pm
Voice of Revolution Nov 6, 2009, 9:02 pm
My View of the World Nov 6, 2009, 8:02 pm
Sudan Watch Nov 6, 2009, 7:35 pm
Verum Serum Nov 6, 2009, 7:37 pm
OrthodoxyToday Nov 6, 2009, 7:09 pm
The Common Room Nov 6, 2009, 1:00 pm
CNSNews.com Headlines Nov 6, 2009, 1:14 pm
C-POL Nov 6, 2009, 6:38 pm
WICatholic Musings Nov 6, 2009, 12:39 pm
Values Voter News Nov 6, 2009, 11:01 am
NoisyRoom.net Nov 6, 2009, 5:57 pm
Neocon Express Nov 6, 2009, 9:50 am